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Old 15-02-17, 08:44 AM   #1
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Default HDI won't start after using a different key...

Hi all,

Car info: 2001 PH3 HDI (engine code RHY) Manual Transmission

So on Friday my return spring on the ignition barrel snapped. So I took the barrel off and stripped the pins out of the lock so I can swap them into the new barrel when it turns up...

Whilst I wait for the new barrel to turn up, I have been starting the car with the keyfob strapped to the immobiliser aerial and turning the ignition switch with a flathead screwdriver. When I arrive at my destination I turn the switch off with the screwdriver, remove the fob from the strap, lock the car and away I go. This has been working fine for past couple of days.


However... I had the fantastic idea of digging out my second keyfob last night which I definitely knew was also paired up with the car for RCL. This would therefore save me faffing around destrapping the main fob from the aerial each time I left the car. I could just leave it there and use my second key to lock/unlock. Genius, I know!


Yesterday morning I tried this. Car locked fine on the second keyfob. Later on, on my return to the car, it also unlocked fine. I got in. I started. Its just turning, turning, turning. Oh crap. The car has never failed to start in all the years I have owned it.

I chucked Peugeot Planet on it last night and heres the relevant codes:

BSI Codes
Permanent fault. Key Faulty. Identification not received.

ECU Codes
Intermittent fault. Coded anti-start operation. Function faulty.


Second one I thought might be an old one, but I can't seem to find out. I normally clear them and try again later but I just get a communication error when trying to clear the ECU :/

BSI cleared and that fault came straight back.


Anyway, whilst looking around none of this makes sense as I don't have any low batteries or anything out of the ordinary, nor have I touched/swapped anything relating to the BSI/ECU!

So yeah, to sum it up, I ran the car on one key, locked the car with another... and now it wont start!


Anyone any advice or knowledge on the whole key situation?

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Old 15-02-17, 09:26 AM   #2
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have you tried to start it with the key you know works and a screwdriver as you did before?
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Indeed, first thing I tried.

Bear in mind I only used the second key at that point to lock/unlock the car, not to start it.

Odd one eh?
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Indeed, first thing I tried.

Bear in mind I only used the second key at that point to lock/unlock the car, not to start it.

Odd one eh?
leave the car for 15 mins then try the key that you know worked before
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Tried that this morning (was left overnight). No joy.

Going to try a BSI reboot again later today and try again.

I can see why some owners send their ECUs off to have the immob disabled now!
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Do you have a automatic by any chance? IN P - Park
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Sorry should have stated, manual.
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Its probably just not reading the key properly do the beep test
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have you had the key in bits?
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nothing shorting or blown a fuse
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