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Old 19-08-15, 04:10 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I'm new here, but not new to Peugeots, my previous one being a 205 van many years ago.
On Saturday my other half went out in the 306 2 litre hdi without any problems but when she tried to start it to come home it would just spin over. I went out but could see nothing obviously causing the problem so had it recovered. I've since changed the fuel filter and with the filter top pipes disconnected it pushes diesel out either with ignition switched on or turning over on the starter. Have also got power to the glow plugs, but have scanned it with a Snap On Solus and it comes up with fault code P1517- coded anti-start operation. There is no engine management light on although my scanner says it is, so that might not be operational, also have taken the ign key to be checked by a specialist and they say it hasn't lost its code. Have checked for breaks in wiring under front bumper, etc and now have access to fuse/ relay box behind ecu to check for live which seems fine. Any ideas please?.
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Old 19-08-15, 04:15 PM   #2
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Key does not loose codes car does sounds like that may be what is wrong

Year would be helpful as 306s have a lot of different set ups depending on age

Did you check live data on solus for fuel pressure key being read cam and crank sync etc

code reading is useless with diesels you need live data
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Thanks. 306 is a 1999 model. Wouldn't let me check live data as only spins over on starter. Have just checked and number 1 injector has power to it also.
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You can get live data from a cranking engine !

You need to see fuel pressure cam and crank sync and engine speed also if the ecu is locked or unlocked without these you will get nowhere

I know it can do it i had a non starting espace last week and i borrowed a solus to check it and this allowed me to see immobiliser was fine cranking speed was fine but fuel pressure was zero turned out some muppet had left a fuel pipe loose on the rail and mixed up 2 injector feeds
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Old 19-08-15, 05:35 PM   #5
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It wouldn't do it on the Pug, although I'd only borrowed it for a few minutes. I would have thought that if timing had slipped or fuel starvation it would have thrown up a more specific code related to that?
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Old 19-08-15, 05:50 PM   #6
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computers don't see everything !

If its 1 tooth out it will start if more than 1 it wont but it does not throw a code as the sensors are still functioning.

fuel pressure needs to get to 120 bar for injectors to open but it should be at 300 bar even cranking.

If key is being read ecu will show unlocked

You already have an immobiliser related code these checks would confirm this was indeed the fault by eliminating all other possibilities
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Old 19-08-15, 08:40 PM   #7
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Thanks. I think I'd better see how to lock crank and cam into position to check if the timing belt has slipped. Have just done a sort of live data test tonight using Autel Maxisys but only told me things like coolant temp so wasn't really any help.
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