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Old 21-03-15, 10:19 PM   #1
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Default fault code p1385/p0341

Hi every one.
I looked at a friends 207 cc today as making noise at about 2500 Rpm.
Plugged in with planet.
got p1385, variable cam soliniod b malfunction.
And p0341, camshaft sensor a bank 1, thinking this is a secondary fault.
I'm thinking timing chain as noise is from that part of the engine.
Thoughts please?

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Old 21-03-15, 10:31 PM   #2
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Forgot to say.
when I removed the oil filler cap to listen to valves, there was a really strong smell of petrol in the vapours coming from it.
Also believe engine is the 1.6 turbo thp.

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Old 21-03-15, 11:18 PM   #3
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P1385 is super knock on the THP engine, nothing to do with variable cam sensor position, basically ur inlet valves are clogged up and blocking air coming thru into the cylinder.

The other fault is camshaft position sensor related p0341
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Old 21-03-15, 11:25 PM   #4
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and would that make a noise at around 2500 Rpm?
So you would recommend removing and cleaning all air inlet pipes and use of a egr type cleaner while engine is running?
Many thanks for your reply.
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Yeh could make noise as the air into the cylinders is now a different amount than what the air flow sensor is picking up, so the igniting in the cylinder doesn't have enough air in it, and causing the super knock fault code to come up, and possibly the 2nd code too, could be related but for sake of 20 odd quid for a sensor I would change that one.

Nah wouldn't bother with any product like that when car is running as it doesn't touch the inlets for long enough, just throwing money away doing it that way.

Best way is a strip down of th cylinder head but obvioUsly that costs a fair bit, but u can clean the inlets manually if have the rite tools and patience or various companies can clean them using a process called walnut blasting,
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Old 22-03-15, 01:10 AM   #6
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Am I correct in saying though that these engines do suffer from timing chain stretch?
Also why would there be a strong smell of petrol coming from the oil filler cap?
local bmw garage offers walnut blasting.
Many thanks Greg
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Old 22-03-15, 04:55 PM   #7
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yeh the timing can go on these and is fairly common issue.

the smell from oil cap area, probably oil vapour from the PCV set up.
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Done a load more research and investigation using a borascope.
no sign of excess build up in the inlet valves So that rules that out.
have removed timing cover to reveal a badly worn chain, looks like my first instincts were correct!!!
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how many miles it got on it out of interest?
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You won't see the inlet valves clogged using a bore scope, u need to view from the inlet manifold side.

How did u measure the chain? As its a measurement taking out the timing tensioner and putting in a dummy you measure with,
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