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Old 26-05-18, 01:19 PM   #1
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Hi All, my 2008 x 207cc (1.6 Petrol) which I purchased recently will not start at times ...

Park the car, leave it for a period of time, be it a day, week or just a few minutes, it might start or it might not. When it doesn't start, the engine does not turn over at all, you turn the key, battery lights come on, turn it the final turn and nothing, battery lights stay on, nothing happens. I noticed today that when the car is in this predicament, the indicators do not work even with the iginition / battery lights on.

I have tried a good battery from another car and its the same. I have a new Varta 027 battery coming on Monday but I suspect its a relay of some description.

If patience is in abundance, the car will start maybe on the 5th or 25th turn of the key ... hardly the ignition switch, is it ?

Thanks in advance
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Firstly, remove, clean and replace all ground connections from battery-body-engine. Check the cables for breaks/continuity
Do the same with ground points around the engine fuse box.
Then check the engine bay fuse box for water/corrosion. disconnect all plugs and remove all fuses. Clean and replace.
The engine bay fuse box has a relay in it which activates the starter. It is normally non-serviceable so, if it is faulty, you would have to replace the fuse box. However, grounding issues and water/corrosion on plugs are normally the causes of issues like you are experiencing, so check the bits mentioned above carefully first.
It might also be your ignition switch so dont rule that out entirely. But check/remediate one thing at a time.
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if the transponder ring goes to the comms unit may be worth unplugging all the plugs and give them a spray.
just thinking the wiper fault may be tied in.
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if the transponder ring goes to the comms unit may be worth unplugging all the plugs and give them a spray.
just thinking the wiper fault may be tied in.
Nothing to do with immobiliser as if it was the car would still turn over
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Hi All, my 2008 x 207cc (1.6 Petrol) which I purchased recently will not start at times ...

Park the car, leave it for a period of time, be it a day, week or just a few minutes, it might start or it might not. When it doesn't start, the engine does not turn over at all, you turn the key, battery lights come on, turn it the final turn and nothing, battery lights stay on, nothing happens. I noticed today that when the car is in this predicament, the indicators do not work even with the iginition / battery lights on.

I have tried a good battery from another car and its the same. I have a new Varta 027 battery coming on Monday but I suspect its a relay of some description.

If patience is in abundance, the car will start maybe on the 5th or 25th turn of the key ... hardly the ignition switch, is it ?

Thanks in advance <img src="https://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
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It sound like starter motor or wiring to starter motor

I would start by checking engine earth and starter connections then test voltages at starter and if it has a good earth permanent live and a live when ignition is turned then all wires are ok and could me motor or solenoid
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Thanks lads for the responses ... sorted now, I bought a new Varta 027 x 601 amp battery, on removing the old battery, I cleaned up the battery terminal connections which had been pretty ok anyway, I then removed the battery box and located the 2 earth strap mounts and sure enough, both connections were corroded. The lead going to the body of the car was especially bad but a quick rub of 80 grade sandaper and a lick of copper grease on all connections has the car starting a lot easier, even the starter motor sounds much sweeter now. Next issue is the timing chain I fear, a tipity tip tip is coming out of the engine when hot and the odd "depollution" issue appearing ...

Is there any "how to" link on the timing chain replacement ?

Thanks lads, SB
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best buy the haynes, before you start get new cam/crank bolts from peugeot as they are use once bolts, make sure chain kit has new tensioner and oil it before fitting. Lots of cleaning so make sure you have brake/switch cleaner or simular.

took me around 6 hours on and off, if i had to do it again i would set up a wallpaper table and boxes to put stuff in, as spent most time loosing bits and peices.
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