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Old 18-09-18, 08:57 PM   #1
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Still got a starting problem, changed the timing solenoid and all was fine but now im getting loss of power on first start up car dies and the revs drop when i try to rev it, and torque pro show that the boost vacuum drops and jumps up then drops off and stalls.


could this be a air leek?

car drives fine after about 40seconds.

207 gt 1.6 thp. 2007
new timing kits, solenoid, fuel pump, spark plugs and full services in the last 2000miles

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Old 18-09-18, 09:24 PM   #2
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Vacuum will drop off if engine revs drop too low its a symptom not the cause.
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Old 19-09-18, 10:33 AM   #3
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got the car running this morning and went a short drive and tried to boost and the ecu management light is now on:

p1336 -- coil --cylinder 1?
p1337 -- coil --cylinder 2?
p1339 -- coil-- cylinder 4?
and B2AAA -- Unknown fault code

so iv swamped coil 1 with 3 and 2 with 4 to see if i can change the fault code to p1339.

whats the chance of 3 coils failing? i changed coil 3 at my last service as the rubber was struct on the spark plug.

but what i don't understand is why the car is fine when warmed up, if its a spark plug/coil

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Old 19-09-18, 03:29 PM   #4
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who did your timing?

brand new fuel pump yeh?

what fuel u normally use?
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Old 19-09-18, 03:43 PM   #5
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who did your timing?

brand new fuel pump yeh?

what fuel u normally use?

timing got done due to lumpy starts, after replacing the fuel pump. but still lumpy start so done timing solenoid that kinda helped but not for long.

its just been one thing after another, car was not looked after before i got it.


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Old 19-09-18, 03:53 PM   #6
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u do timing yourself?

where in Scotland are u? know mine hates running on 98Ron.

normally for multiple misfires, its the fuel pump but u already replaced that.
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Old 19-09-18, 04:04 PM   #7
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u do timing yourself?

where in Scotland are u? know mine hates running on 98Ron.

normally for multiple misfires, its the fuel pump but u already replaced that.
from the Stirling area, got the n14 timing tools of ebay and got some help of a friend it was not that hard.

will try to move on to normal fuel at next top up. see if it makes a difference.

mind you fuel pump was not brand new came off a mini s with 35k on it.
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Old 19-09-18, 04:16 PM   #8
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ah rite

the timing tools off ebay don't fit great, allows too much play in the camshafts when they supposed to be "locked".

did u change every single bolt or resuse them? and did u use the dummy tensioner? torque it to 0.6nm ?

we have done a load of timing in the last 4 years, as we have the proper Peugeot timing tools, lad near us in fife has very similar issues to you on start up and his timing is a good bit out, had replaced the hpfp, the timing control solenoid, uses 99Ron fuel, and when brought car yesterday had the timing checked and its a good bit out, and the inlet valves are clogged up.


on that actually, what mileage is on the car? it standard or mapped?
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Old 19-09-18, 04:22 PM   #9
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ah rite

the timing tools off ebay don't fit great, allows too much play in the camshafts when they supposed to be "locked".

did u change every single bolt or resuse them? and did u use the dummy tensioner? torque it to 0.6nm ?

we have done a load of timing in the last 4 years, as we have the proper Peugeot timing tools, lad near us in fife has very similar issues to you on start up and his timing is a good bit out, had replaced the hpfp, the timing control solenoid, uses 99Ron fuel, and when brought car yesterday had the timing checked and its a good bit out, and the inlet valves are clogged up.


on that actually, what mileage is on the car? it standard or mapped?

standard map. dont think i did use the dummy tensioner. reused bolts

but the cams where locked up 100% and the flywheel. my timing was off to start with so the timming need realigned. fallowed this guide.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...eplacement.htm

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Old 19-09-18, 04:27 PM   #10
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where did u get the torque settings from can u mind?

on standard car.... have a look at the LTFT on torque, see what it says! can give good indication to us.

see your in alloa….got friends in sauchie who have 207cc and 207 xs sport, both fairly modified etc that we look after the engine side of things for.
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