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Old 28-12-17, 12:18 AM   #1
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Hi,

We're having issues with starting my wife's 207 CC (60 plate 1.6 diesel). Recently it has been a been a little slow on start up taking a few seconds of turning over to get it going, then yesterday it refused to start at all. When trying to start it would turn over, revs would come up to about 200RPM and then it wouldn't start.

So today I replaced the battery with a brand new one including following the procedure for resetting BSi (drivers window open, 3 mins until disconnection, 15 seconds disconnected, wait 10 seconds, sidelights on etc.). I turned the key and after quite a few seconds it eventually started, albeit quite lumpy. We let the car run on idle for five minutes then we stopped it. After deciding to drive home from where we originally abandoned the car we started the car again and took it the short 10 minute drive home. On the drive home it was still quite lumpy and seemed a little juddery at times despite the accelerator being kept in the same place.

We had a look online regarding why it would still be lumpy and thought it might be down to the ECU having to relearn after having the battery disconnected. We decided to take the car for a drive for half an hour to see if it helped but when we tried to start it again it wouldn't start. The engine would turn over, get to 200RPM and then not start. We tried the procedure for resetting BSi and it didn't make any difference, still failed to start. I left it an hour before trying again and it very nearly started but not quite. We haven't tried since.

I also did the test to check the key coding was OK (lwhen eaving keys in ignition and opening door the car beeped).

What sort of issue could we be looking at here? The symptoms seem to be the same before and after replacing the battery.

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Old 28-12-17, 06:13 AM   #2
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Your best bet will be to get it scanned with PP2000/Diagbox. Firstly read all stored faults and then get live data to see whether you have crank/cam syncro and what fuel pressure you have while cranking/trying to start it.

There are so many things that could cause your issue that, without a scan/getting live readings, you will just be poking a stick at it.

Check the map to see if there is someone near you who can help with a scan. https://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/...anet-map-7734/
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Old 28-12-17, 09:37 AM   #3
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It sounds like a fuel supply problem.
Before trying to start car, check if the diesel hand primer is firm, if its all soft and no fuel in it, then you have a air leak, letting the fuel run back to tank.
Also check your glow plugs, but on hdi models, ecu doesn't normally engage then until well below freezing or for dpf regeneration.
Where are you located?
best check the planet map on here and get it scanned, should give some answers.
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Old 28-12-17, 10:26 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies guys.

We've had a development, it's definitely a fueling issue. My Mother in Law was driving it a few days ago and she just realised this morning that it's a diesel and she had topped it up with unleaded! As I said in my first post the car has been driven with the problem so I hope no damage has been done. We're going to call someone out to have a look today
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Thanks for the replies guys.

We've had a development, it's definitely a fueling issue. My Mother in Law was driving it a few days ago and she just realised this morning that it's a diesel and she had topped it up with unleaded! As I said in my first post the car has been driven with the problem so I hope no damage has been done. We're going to call someone out to have a look today
That will do it!
How much fuel is in it now?
If its full, tank will need draining and fresh fuel primed to the injectors.
If only a small amount of petrol added, fill tank up with diesel, to massively water petrol down, will need to bleed new fuel up to the injectors.
Have you brake down cover? If so you might sored free of charge though that.
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Old 28-12-17, 11:37 AM   #6
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The fuel light came on so she put in 20 so about 15 litres I guess. My mother in law has phoned up her breakdown cover so they should be here soon to hopefully sort it. We're just worried that since it's been driven about ten miles it'll have already caused some damage but we'll just need to wait and see
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It should be fine, as diesel ignites under compression, where as petrol with a spark.
That's why it wont run.
It just need removing and new fuel bled tough.
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Old 28-12-17, 06:20 PM   #8
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Sorted. Car was drained of petrol and now running as it should on diesel, what a relief!

I just need to figure out how to stop it happening again, somehow the big diesel sticker on the filler cap wasn't enough
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not sure theres to much you can do.
but doubt she will do it again.
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glad its all sorted mac.
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