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Old 24-03-19, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default 2008 207cc 1.6vti 120, ocasional exhaust smoke.

Hi all, I've been absent from the forums for some time humble apologie

I've just noticed recently A small puff of grey/blue smoke from the exhaust when I pull away after idling in traffic for long periods; doesn't seem to do it all the time.
Engine has only done 51k miles genuine, and has always been meticulously serviced with regular oil changes. Surely this can't be worn valve guides or worn valve guides oil seals ? what these signs suggest to me.

I know that theese EP6 Prince engines have their problems, but not valve guide wear. Other wise car seems to drive ok. I've had it 3 years now, absolutely love it and drive it very carefully.

Any thoughts or opinions most welcome, any thing to worry about or not?
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More likely the poor PCV system on the engine re breathing oil mist at idle

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More likely the poor PCV system on the engine re breathing oil mist at idle

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Thanks windy1603 for your speedy reply, is this something I can remedy? or shall I just have to live with it?
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I would try driving it a little harder to start, could be a build up of gunk in the inlet manifold.
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The diaphragm in the PCV does fail on these however Peugeot only sell the complete cam cover and not the diaphragm on it's own.

There is a aftermarket one available I did post a link on a similar thread if you do a search

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I would try driving it a little harder to start, could be a build up of gunk in the inlet manifold.
Thanks for the reply stripe88. I could give that a go, only problem living on the Isle of Wight, most roads are full of traffic and pretty much 30/40 limits. We do have one stretch of dual carriageway about a mile long; Big Deal.
Maybe go out late at night when the roads are quite and give it a blast. Then get stopped by the police who will discover an embarrassed 70 year old boy racer with the lame excuse of trying to clean his inlet manifold. 'Not heard that one before sir', says Plod.

Any way thanks again, worth a try before taking things to pieces and spending loads of dosh
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The diaphragm in the PCV does fail on these however Peugeot only sell the complete cam cover and not the diaphragm on it's own.

There is a aftermarket one available I did post a link on a similar thread if you do a search

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Thanks again windy for taking the trouble to reply again, yes I have since done a search on the Forums (which I should of course have done in the first place).
Seems there is an aftermarket PCV refurb Kit available on Ebay, priced in dollars so presumably from USA.
I think your diagnoses must be correct as the car only smokes when pulling away from Idle. Of course now I've noticed it, I'm constantly looking in the mirror every time pull away for that tell tale puff of smoke, a little O.C.D.

I did take the small plastic access panel off of the cam cover assembly
to reveal PCV which is just to the right of the breather hose. I was hoping to be able to see if the diaphram was faulty. Unfortunately the covering cap seemed a very secure fit and I didn't want to damage it by forcing it off.
So will investigate further another day.

These Modern Engines with all there emission control systems and sensors are quite complex compared to my era of carburetters, distributers and crankcase breathers which vented staight to the atmosphere!

Anyway I've rambled on for far too long now, so thanks so much again for your advice
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that pipe can be a little awkward if it hasnt been removed in a long time, i got help, i squezed the pipe clip top and bottom with some full size long nose pliers and got a mate to jiggle it free with some pliers, you can then at least check how oil filled the pipe is.
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that pipe can be a little awkward if it hasnt been removed in a long time, i got help, i squezed the pipe clip top and bottom with some full size long nose pliers and got a mate to jiggle it free with some pliers, you can then at least check how oil filled the pipe is.
Yes I managed to get the breather pipe off with some off-set long nose pliers. It was the cap or cover plate above the PCV valve that I could not remove without fear of breaking it, in order to check condition of diaphragm underneath. Not sure it's designed to be removed at all ? Perhaps you have to force/break it away in order to fit aftermarket PCV. ? Not brave enough to do that yet until I know more.
Didn't seem to be excessive amounts of oil in breather pipe by the way.
Thanks for you input again, will persevere.
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yes i think that cap is sealed and needs cutting off,
On my old ford that did the same it was only when i took the manifold off and turned it upsidedown that i could see the buildup of water/oil mix pour out, was down to short cold trips and winter months.
whats the underside of the oil cap look like?
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