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Old 01-12-2012, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default Clicking o/s/f wheel hub?

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When I turn the brake disc by hand, tension seems to build up at the end of each 360 degree rotation and then there is a slight jerk and a big click felt through the brake disc?

I've just replaced the o/s drive shaft with a brand new one. The hub nut is hand tight (perhaps slightly more). The lower suspension arm is NOT refitted yet! The strut is supported on a trolley jack 'foot', underneath the area where the lower suspension arm ball joint shaft goes through the hole with a pinch bolt. After the jack has been pumped at least 4 times
(thus pressuring the strut) on rotation a click and jerk can be felt through the brake disc? However, if the strut is allowed to 'hang' freely from the three bolts at the top of the strut tower, the brake disc rotates without a problem! (i.e. problem only exists when supported by trolley jack under slight lifting pressure).

any advice would be useful?

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Old 01-12-2012, 10:09 PM   #2
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Sounds the the spring in the inner cv joint is snapped in half (maybe)
Is the shaft senondhand?
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Sounds the the spring in the inner cv joint is snapped in half (maybe)
Is the shaft senondhand?
The shaft was brand new

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The shaft was brand new

thanks for the reply!
It can happen on fitting it.
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It can happen on fitting it.
what can happen on fitting "it"?

do you mean the spring can break on fitting the drive shaft in to the vehicle?

I noticed on the internet that when taken apart a lot of inner tripod joints don't appear to have 'that' spring? ~ why? (e.g. youtube vids).

At one point whilst the strut was on the trolley jack it moved away and out of the wheel arch taking the strut with it. The hub nut was on and so the shaft got pulled tight along with the jack and strut, and the area under most pressure was the inner cv gaiter which was stretched to its limit without it coming off either end (of the shaft). It feels like the splined shaft end had come clean out of the three wheel tripod carrier? It feels like the three wheel tripod is still inside 'the cup' (the casing) and when I push back against the spring (which is very strong) I can feel the splined shaft end slipping back inside the splined centre hole of the three wheel carrier. I don't know if this is normal because once the lower suspension arm is refitted it will be kind of locked in place by the bottom ball joint (so it won't be able to 'drift' outward or any where else for that matter! This would mean that instead of the 3 wheel tripod moving (plunging) in and out, it would be the drive shaft splined end that was moving (plunging) in and out whilst the tripod remained quite still inside 'the cup'!! Is this normal?

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Should there be a circlip 'locking' the tripod onto the splined end of the drive shaft?

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what can happen on fitting "it"?

do you mean the spring can break on fitting the drive shaft in to the vehicle?

I noticed on the internet that when taken apart a lot of inner tripod joints don't appear to have 'that' spring? ~ why? (e.g. youtube vids).

At one point whilst the strut was on the trolley jack it moved away and out of the wheel arch taking the strut with it. The hub nut was on and so the shaft got pulled tight along with the jack and strut, and the area under most pressure was the inner cv gaiter which was stretched to its limit without it coming off either end (of the shaft). It feels like the splined shaft end had come clean out of the three wheel tripod carrier? It feels like the three wheel tripod is still inside 'the cup' (the casing) and when I push back against the spring (which is very strong) I can feel the splined shaft end slipping back inside the splined centre hole of the three wheel carrier. I don't know if this is normal because once the lower suspension arm is refitted it will be kind of locked in place by the bottom ball joint (so it won't be able to 'drift' outward or any where else for that matter! This would mean that instead of the 3 wheel tripod moving (plunging) in and out, it would be the drive shaft splined end that was moving (plunging) in and out whilst the tripod remained quite still inside 'the cup'!! Is this normal?

OR

Should there be a circlip 'locking' the tripod onto the splined end of the drive shaft?
Did you stirip the inner joint?
Only way you'll find out for sure is the take it apart.
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...the clicking/popping sound isn't coming from the inner CV joint though! ~ It's coming from the wheel hub/brake disc? ...and it only happens when the hub is slightly 'jacked' and the hub nut is at least hand tight. If the hub nut is slack and/or the hub isn't 'jacked' then the problem goes away; can you explain this in more detail please? (elaborate?)

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Whats it like when you drive the car? any noises?
I can only guess what has/has not been done based on experience.
Removal and refitting of a driveshaft is definitely not hard. something thats doesn't sound right is usually down to whoever fitted it, ie incorrectly or the part is faulty.
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Whats it like when you drive the car? any noises?
I can only guess what has/has not been done based on experience.
Removal and refitting of a driveshaft is definitely not hard. something thats doesn't sound right is usually down to whoever fitted it, ie incorrectly or the part is faulty.
There were no noises the last time the car was driven in november 2011 prior to the MOT failure (due to a worn lower suspension arm bush). That was when my attention was drawn to the failing intermediate bearing and inner CV joint. So as well as replacing the worn bush I also replaced the o/s/f drive shaft complete with a brand new intermediate bearing and inner CV joint. I did the removal and refit myself. I also replaced the tranny oil seal.

The drive shaft is full engaged in the tranny and wheel hub. The intermediate bearing is fully pressed into the rear engine mount and properly secured with the two offset bolts! The rear engine mount bush was also replaced as the original was perished and split. The rear engine mount and 'YOKE' were CORRECTLY refitted by me also!

The wheel hub spins flawlessly when the drive shaft is removed.

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