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Old 22-04-10, 11:49 PM   #1
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can anyone tell me if I can run my 2.0 hdi on bio diesel ? many thanks , moggie
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Old 23-04-10, 08:47 AM   #2
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I once asked puegeot about this, heres the answer they sent me....

Thank you for your recent enquiry made via the Peugeot website.

Since 1998 Peugeot has engineered all of its HDi diesel engines to run on biofuels. This flexibility in the design of the Peugeot HDi diesel engine means that today, all current Peugeot HDi diesel engines can run on a blend of 30% vegetable oil methylester/diesel biofuel, without any modification.

Therefore with the current level of available biofuel at the UK pump being only 5%, Peugeot again demonstrates its forward thinking in respect to environmental issues. Fuel quality for bio-diesel and for diesel fuel must conform to European fuel norms EN14214 and EN590.

You vehicle will be required to be serviced according to the arduous conditions as detailed in the service handbook and the fuel held in the vehicle tank must be used within 3 months maximum.


However i've still not tried, and my local morrisons has stopped selling it now!
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Old 23-04-10, 01:49 PM   #3
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thanks stubbo for reply,
Will look into were I can buy the fuel from in my area and wondering how much they charge per litre, may not be worth it anyway.
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The local morrisons was selling B30 but it was the same price as diesel, didnt see the point in potentially messing up the car if i got no benefit!

Keep us posted if you find any and results from using it
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From Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
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Biodiesel can be used in pure form (B100) or may be blended with petroleum diesel at any concentration in most injection pump diesel engines. New extreme high pressure (29,000 psi) common rail engines have strict factory limits of B5 or B20 depending on manufacturer. Biodiesel has different solvent properties than petrodiesel, and will degrade natural rubber gaskets and hoses in vehicles (mostly vehicles manufactured before 1992), although these tend to wear out naturally and most likely will have already been replaced with FKM, which is nonreactive to biodiesel. Biodiesel has been known to break down deposits of residue in the fuel lines where petrodiesel has been used. As a result, fuel filters may become clogged with particulates if a quick transition to pure biodiesel is made. Therefore, it is recommended to change the fuel filters on engines and heaters shortly after first switching to a biodiesel blend.
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hi folks
being a right skin flint i have tried bio diesel in all of my diesel cars with various results.
i have found that with the 407 hdi it will run on about 50% bio around the town where you dont really put a lot of strain on the engine so it runs well.
the problems come with motorway travel when i have found that the car doesnt like to have over 10% bio or you will find a very marked lack of performance and you will find that on gradual uphill travel the car will slow down considerably.
hope this helps anyone wanting to try bio diesel.
by the way i make my own bio diesel so i know its a consistant mix.
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Hi, I would like ask you about biodiesel...I got methanol and sodium hydroxide a and used veggie oil...I tried 1liter oil and 2.2dcl methanol and one small coffee spoon of sodium hydroxide...and after few hours I got result at the bottom of bottle was Glycerine.The biodiesel I had clear bud brown is it correct?I think that should be kind of green. How can I find that colour si correct or my biodiesel it is ok...
Just one think I didn't heat the oil just filtrated and than mixed Na Oh+Methanol ..After that mixed about 3minutes with oil...
I would like to do 100l oil for second time but still I am not sure if is correct my step
Can you tell me how is your steps?
I have peugeot 406Hdi 2000year.

Thank You Lubo from Slovakia
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Make Biofuel | Make Biodiesel at Home A pretty good guide.
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Hi, I would like ask you about biodiesel...I got methanol and sodium hydroxide a and used veggie oil...I tried 1liter oil and 2.2dcl methanol and one small coffee spoon of sodium hydroxide...and after few hours I got result at the bottom of bottle was Glycerine.The biodiesel I had clear bud brown is it correct?I think that should be kind of green. How can I find that colour si correct or my biodiesel it is ok...
Just one think I didn't heat the oil just filtrated and than mixed Na Oh+Methanol ..After that mixed about 3minutes with oil...
I would like to do 100l oil for second time but still I am not sure if is correct my step
Can you tell me how is your steps?
I have peugeot 406Hdi 2000year.

Thank You Lubo from Slovakia
hi there
i think you will find that the mix has to be heated toabout 60 deg Centigrade to get a proper reaction,also once heated you need to do a titration test to find out how much sodium hydroxide is needed to properly react the mix.
then afterwards it will need to be seperated from the glycerol and water filtered or put through a dry resin filter.
if i remember correctly if you look on the webpage of "journey to forever"
you will find a wealth of information which is how i started and have to date made approx 7000ltrs.
hope this helps.
mark

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What does the cost work out at per litre?
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