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Old 25-02-17, 10:31 AM   #1
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Hi guys n gals. Im new to this forum and Peugeot in general. My wife just got a used 308 with the plain smeg+ audio without satnav. Is there a way to activate it? Or do i have to change the whole unit?
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Old 27-02-17, 08:25 AM   #2
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As far as I know you have to change entire unit and get one GPS aerial.
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Old 18-04-17, 12:45 PM   #3
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To confirm what Sinisha said, since I'm in the process of doing it... you need a new radio, which is hidden (not visible from the car) under the dashboard. It looks like the plain 1-DIN radio, just without any buttons or display, just the metal box size of the 1-DIN radio. The display on your cockpit remains the same.
And the aerial base + aerial itself need to be changed, because there is GPS antenna and GPS amplifier in the base. So, new antenna base, new antenna, new SMEG unit, and of course when changing it your VIN has to be coded to new SMEG unit, because otherwise it won't work - it's linked to your specific car via VIN code. This can be done by a dealer, while the rest you could do yourself. I am not doing it myself, the dealer will do the work.
In my country, the aerial + aerial base is, at the dealer, roughly 100€. The SMEG is the expensive part, but I managed to score one used, with GPS, from ebay for around 200€. Plus the work, which I'll obviously have to pay to the dealer. But then again, my car is still under factory warranty (extended one) until end of 2019, so I'm not going to fiddle with it myself...
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To confirm what Sinisha said, since I'm in the process of doing it... you need a new radio, which is hidden (not visible from the car) under the dashboard. It looks like the plain 1-DIN radio, just without any buttons or display, just the metal box size of the 1-DIN radio. The display on your cockpit remains the same.
And the aerial base + aerial itself need to be changed, because there is GPS antenna and GPS amplifier in the base. So, new antenna base, new antenna, new SMEG unit, and of course when changing it your VIN has to be coded to new SMEG unit, because otherwise it won't work - it's linked to your specific car via VIN code. This can be done by a dealer, while the rest you could do yourself. I am not doing it myself, the dealer will do the work.
In my country, the aerial + aerial base is, at the dealer, roughly 100€. The SMEG is the expensive part, but I managed to score one used, with GPS, from ebay for around 200€. Plus the work, which I'll obviously have to pay to the dealer. But then again, my car is still under factory warranty (extended one) until end of 2019, so I'm not going to fiddle with it myself...
ı have got smeg with navi ı can sell it
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ı have got smeg with navi ı can sell it
I'm ready to pay a whole one hundred Euros for it. Deal? Shipping included, of course ....
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Old 05-05-17, 12:43 PM   #6
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I finished this procedure 2 days ago. I'll make it as short as possible:

You need:
- new audio unit with GPS (this is the thing you don't see - display remains the same, it's just the "internal" thing that looks a lot like a common 1-DIN radio, just without display, buttons etc)
- new cable that goes from the aerial, under the roof, to the radio on the front (because the cable for units with GPS has additional wire inside)
- new aerial base & stub

Procedure is pretty simple (to describe) but will take some time to do:
- open the dashboard and replace old unit with a new one
- through diagnostics you need to put your VIN to the new unit (to match it to your car)
- through diagnostics you need to search through BSI to activate NAV button on display and to tell the BSI that there is a nav unit now
- pull down roof lining in the back, to replace aerial base
- while it's open, you need to route the new aerial cable by pulling out the old one and following the same route with the new cable (the most time-consuming job)
- connect new cable to new radio, turn it on & check if nav works, sees satelites, if radio works and check everything else if it works as before
- put everything back together

So, it's not rocket science, but it is time-consuming, most of all the replacing of old aerial cable with the new one. That's a b*tch because you'll be pulling down roof lining, and pass the cable from the back of the roof, above the doors, down into the dashboard. Good thing here is that you can follow the old cable, so you don't have to figure out where to put it.

Mine was done by dealer, all the work + parts EXCEPT for the NAV unit which I purchased via ebay. Total ammounted 500€, all parts and labor included.

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Thank you for your post. But, as I believed before, it's a quite unreasonable operation. I mean, when you buying a new 308 here in Croatia NAV option cost 506, so if you want Nav in your new car the perfect solution is to buy it with the car. However, if you change your mind and after buying a car without nav or in case of second-hand car this is a good and seems to be not too complicated possibility.
In your case, how many days dealer spent on it? Everything work OK, without any damage done?
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I agree with you. If I went with new nav unit from dealer, the cost would be over 1k?. But, as you suggested, I got the 308 used, and I got what it had...
Absolutely getting the nav (or any other option, for that matter) in the time of purchase is the best way to go.
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But why? When you can get a stand alone unit for a fraction of that money which will do everything and more than the Peugeot unit will do. And you get free map updates for life which you can do far easier in the comfort of your home rather than running the engine for an hour or more to get the (probably paid for) updates on the Pug one.
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Old 05-05-17, 08:34 PM   #10
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Well IMO not quite. If I wanted some 3rd party solution, I could've attached my iPhone to a suction-cup thingy on the windshield and be done with it. But I hate various cell phone holders, be they the drill-in-the-dashboard, suction-cup-to-windshield or airvent holders. I find them ugly. Not to say that in half the Europe the suction-cup versions are illegal.
Then, "for a fraction of the price" as you say, can I get a 7" nav? Not quite. Garmin Nuvi, with screen smaller than my cellphone's, is some 200?. And then again, I would have a 7" screen nicely blended into the dashboard, and a more or
Less ugly construction holding some nav unit, with power cable hanging from it... not my cup of tea.
As for the maps price, the newest set which I installed on my way home from dealer, costed me a 3-min-torrent download plus some 30 min of copying it all to usb stick and generating a key with keygen. I know it's not legal, but still I did it and it was free, and will be free.
So yes, if I only wanted any kind of nav in my car, with only condition that it works, I could've done it for under $10, literally. But I have a car that is under 2 years old, under warranty until end of 2019, and I do care a bit about aestetics. So I opted to spend sait ?500 to have the nav upgraded/installed as it was intended by designers. I just like it that way - you maybe don't and I understand that.

As for the hour needed to upgrade, I must say that's completely true. Only I didn't upgrade all of the EU maps, just the 2 or 3 for the countries I travel to or might travel to in a forseeable future. No need, for me at least, to have an updated map of UK or Netherlands since I don't belive I'll ever travel there with my car. Should the unlikely occur after all, I can always upgrade the map. So the procedure, for me, lasted about half an hour, which was a bit less than the time I need to travel from the dealer to my home. I also travel frequently for 90 minutes one way and then back after a day or two, on highway, so I can use that time to upgrade maps if I needed.
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