Advice please - which one: 1.6THP or 2.0HDI???

[Flashsa]

Hi All

I have been driving my demo 1.6THP 3008 for about 6 months and have been loving the whole experience. My only niggle is that the 1.6THP engine has some lag right at the bottom if you are to pull off from a yield in second gear or have to take a gap. Other than that once you pile the revs on it is a beauty of an engine!

Now my salesman at my dealership has called to say he has a secondhand 2.0HDI with similiar mileage to mine and same year model, as well as same spec - but the diesel has grip control. He says he can get do a straight swap and get me into the Diesel for the same money per month / same deal.

I have driven the new Citroen DS4 with the 2.0 HDI engine and it had very strong pull and I was impressed. I happened to mention to the salesman that my next Peugeot should have the 2.0HDI engine in as I really like it.

Now my question is - do I change or not? I will be driving the 2.0HDI tomorrow for the day to get a feel for it...

Anyone owned or driven both - which one would you have? Only negative I can think of is the grip control model comes with 16inch wheels while my 1.6THP has 17inch mags......

[jet_andy]

I drove the 1.6 on my test drive and thought it a little sluggish - had been used to a 136 Hdi 407.
So I ordered the 150 - and very pleased I did. It's got good power delivery, good for an overtake, better than the 407.

Don't have the Grip Control though.

[Bird dog]

I tried a demonstrator (salesman's car) 150 diesel, but the average fuel consumption figure shown on the trip computer was enough to put me off. Got 112 diesel instead. Fast enough for a 'family' car, and much better on the go juice.

Never tried the Petrol turbo in the 3008, but did try it in a Citroen C5. A bit...underwhelming.

[chopper1192]

I went for the 110, as was then. I tried the 2 litre, and while it has grunt the power delivery is lumpy and narrow. The basic engine design of the DW10 is pretty ancient now. The 1.6 is naturally less powerful, but feels revvier and lively in a way that makes it good fun, and the ratios on the 6 cog box are beautifully suited. Consumption is significantly better on the road that the 2 litre.

Grip control is all well and good, but you can only get it with 16's and the all weather tyre option, which is lovely in the depths of winter, worse than standard every other time.

[Flashsa]

Had the 2.0HDI 150HP diesel for testing yesterday. Power delivery was nice but ovetaking was slower than my 1.6THP Petrol.

I did not enjoy the 16inch all terrain tyres as they squeeled like a slaughtered pig around corners and the wheelarches looked underwheeled. The ride was more comfortable but I am still young and a stuffer ride on the 17's does not bother me at all.

Small niggle - having been used to 2 cupholders in my current car, losing a cup holder to the Grip Control knob sucks....

Have decided to keep my petrol fr the time being - love reavving it through the rev range and hearing it go!

[Bird dog]

It's a nice torquey engine for a 1.6 petrol. However, the average fuel consumption figure of 28.5mpg on the 'demonstrator' C5 that I drove, was a big turn off.

Someone told me that they could do 40mpg, no prob. Highly unlikely, unless you drive it like Grandma.

[Flashsa]

Fuel consumption is not the turbo 1.6's strong suit - no matter how gently I drive mine and if I beat the change up indicator every gear change fuel consumption is still on the heavy'ish side.

But it's a great engine.

[Bird dog]

The only small turbo engines that I would recommend to anyone wanting good fuel economy and plenty of power, but don't want a diesel, are VWs 1.4 and Vauxhalls 1.4. Vauxhall have recently fitted the 1.4 turbo to the Insignia, in place of the old 1.8 non-turbo. Skoda have VWs 1.4 turbo in their Superb, and you would not think that such a small engine could pull along so much car. But it does, and does it very well! Still can't match the diesels though.

[chopper1192]

Filled up today, according to the pooter 59.5 MPG average out the last tank - if that ain't a compelling reason for the 1.6HDi manual I dunno what is.

[Bird dog]

Originally Posted by chopper1192

Filled up today, according to the pooter 59.5 MPG average out the last tank - if that ain't a compelling reason for the 1.6HDi manual I dunno what is.

You had it remapped?

In my experience with remaps, you can say goodbye to anything your computer is telling you with regard to mpg, etc.

How could it be that when I'd just had my Vectra remapped the mpg figure is climbing....while I'm waiting at traffic lights?!!! True story! Same thing happened with a tuning box. Even the missis noticed that! Lots of others with different sorts of diesels have noted it too.

59.5 mpg is still some going though!

I hear that PSA are making a new 1.6 (1598cc) diesel with BMW now that the current 1.6 has given its best?