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Old 07-02-13, 10:05 AM   #1
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Last night when driving home - my brake pedal felt weird, it was just rock hard, and I felt I had to press pedal down further to get the brakes to respond (although not major)

When I got home, I turned the car off - pumped the brake pedal and it became rock hard - turned the car on and it was fine - also fine this morning...

Any ideas what this could be ?
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I had a similar issue on my 306 last week - brake pedal went hard after a couple of uses in quick succession. Left it a few seconds and all is well again.

I had a split in my brake vacuum pipes and the one way valve on the servo was sticking.
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I had a similar issue on my 306 last week - brake pedal went hard after a couple of uses in quick succession. Left it a few seconds and all is well again.

I had a split in my brake vacuum pipes and the one way valve on the servo was sticking.
Were you able to fix it yourself ?

How much do think it would be for a garage to repair......

Is it dangerous if left ?
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Amy braking fault has the potential to be dangerous.

With Gibbo, sounds servo or check-valve related to me. Less likely to be the vacuum hose on hear as they're moulded polyurethane instead of rubber.
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Were you able to fix it yourself ?

How much do think it would be for a garage to repair......

Is it dangerous if left ?
Yes, but its a fiddly job if you have sausage fingers! I bought new pipes and one way valve from Peugeot and a brake cylinder repair kit to be on the safe side while I'm working in that area.

It should only take a couple of hour labour at a garage, the valve worked out about 22, I can't remember the pipe prices.

Never skimp on brake repairs, but do a visual inspection yourself first. I'm only going on my experience from the 306, the 307 is a different car after all, and common issues on the previous model are generally improved and rectified on the next.
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Yes, but its a fiddly job if you have sausage fingers! I bought new pipes and one way valve from Peugeot and a brake cylinder repair kit to be on the safe side while I'm working in that area.

It should only take a couple of hour labour at a garage, the valve worked out about 22, I can't remember the pipe prices.

Never skimp on brake repairs, but do a visual inspection yourself first. I'm only going on my experience from the 306, the 307 is a different car after all, and common issues on the previous model are generally improved and rectified on the next.
I will have to get it to a garage then - what I am keen to avoid is a trial and error replacement - "its your pads" "oh its the pump" - "its the cylinder" ! - Is this easy to diagnose ?
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It's pretty easy to figure out. Brakes are simple really.
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It's pretty easy to figure out. Brakes are simple really.
Thanks chopper, (and for all your other answers)

I am guess the worst case scenario is an ABS pump (90 ?) and 3 hours labor ?
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Extreme unlikely a pump problem would cause those symptoms. ABS related failures are fortunately extremely rare on the 107.
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ok took it to the garage - explained the problem....the verdict ?

corroded brake discs

I wasn't convinced and I said the brake discs wouldn't come into play until the brake pads were hitting the disc - my problem was the the lack of assistance as I put my foot on the brake.

Head bloke called me back - and said normally he would agree with me - that discs wouldn't cause this type of problem - but the discs were worn so un evenley that a lip had formed on the disc which could give the sensation i described.

My own take is that the discs may well be corroded - but I can't beleive this causes the very intermittent lack of brake assistance that I get. I didn't have the work done.

Any ideas on how best to proceed ?
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